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Town of Red Hook Planning Board
Meeting Minutes
May 2, 2005
CALL TO ORDER/
DETERMINATION OF QUORUM
The meeting was opened at 8:05 p.m. and a quorum determined present for the
conduct of business.
Members present — Jennifer Fier, John Hardeman (for the first half of the
meeting), Charles Laing, David Wright, and Chair Christine Kane. Sam Phelan
and Paul Telesca were absent. Planning Consultant Michele Greig was also
present.
BUSINESS SESSION
The Chair confirmed the meeting agenda as published.
The minutes of the April 18, 2005 meeting had been sent to the Members and
reviewed. John Hardeman made a motion to accept those minutes. The motion was
seconded by Charles Laing, and all members present voted in favor.
The Chair read two Notices of Intent to Serve as Lead Agency from the Village
of Red Hook. The first notice concerned Anderson Commons. The Board generally
agreed that the Village should serve as Lead Agency and that the clerk should
send a letter of consent. The second notice concerned a proposed townhouse
complex to be located at 7392 S. Broadway entirely within the Village. Again,
the Board generally agreed that the Village should serve as Lead Agency and
that the clerk should send a letter of consent.
REGULAR SESSION (OLD BUSINESS)
Cary Kittner – 1 Wildey Road (Barrytown) – Certificate of Appropriateness
Cary Kittner appeared before the Board with a request for a Certificate of
Appropriateness to authorize a 107 sq. ft. extension of her porch at her
residence in the (H) Hamlet District.
The Chair read comments submitted by the Hamlet/Design Review Committee, which
had reviewed the project and expressed no objections or concerns.
The Chair then read a draft Certificate of Appropriateness for the project.
Planning Board Clerk Betty Mae Van Parys asked that the sentence “No public
hearing was held” be changed to “A public hearing was waived.”
Jennifer Fier made a motion to grant the corrected Certificate. David Wright
seconded the motion, and all members present voted in favor.
George & Gladys Pollard – 106 Old Post Road (Upper Red Hook) – Certificate of
Appropriateness
George and Gladys Pollard appeared before the Board with a request for a
Certificate of Appropriateness to authorize the removal of a 729 sq. ft.
addition from their residence in the (H) Hamlet District.
The Chair read comments submitted by the Hamlet/Design Review Committee, which
had reviewed the project and expressed no objections or concerns.
The Chair then read a draft Certificate of Appropriateness for the project.
Planning Board Clerk Betty Mae Van Parys asked that the sentence “No public
hearing was held” be changed to “A public hearing was waived.”
John Hardeman made a motion to grant the corrected Certificate. Charles Laing
seconded the motion, and all members present voted in favor.
Wise/ Potamkin—Norton Road—Subdivision Plat/ Lot Line Alteration
Marie Welch, L.S., appeared before the Board with an application for
Subdivision Plat Approval and Lot Line Alteration to authorize the conveyance
of 7.15 acres from the land of Donald Wise Limited Partnership to the adjacent
land of Marshall and Rosik Potamkin, located on Norton Road in the RD3
District.
Ms. Welch said she had revised the maps to clarify lot lines, stone wall
delineations, and road frontage figures, as requested by the Board on February
22, 2005. She had also submitted an Agricultural Data Statement and added a
notation on the plat about the conveyance of the 7.15-acre portion of the Wise
land and the legal consolidation of that acreage with the Potamkin parcel. She
said that Mr. Potamkin wished to create a visual buffer for his house and had
no plans to subdivide his land.
The Planning Board first referred the project to the Agricultural Advisory
Committee. David Wright then made a motion to establish the Planning Board as
Lead Agency under SEQR and to schedule a public hearing for May 16, 2005.
Jennifer Fier seconded the motion, and all members present voted in favor.
Daniel Colnaghi – Route 9G – Subdivision Plat/ Lot Line Alteration
Marie Welch, L.S. appeared before the Board with a resubmission from 2004 of
an application to create one (1) new 5.023-acre lot by revising the Lot Lines
of “Lot 2”, “Lot 3A”, and “Lot 3C”, all from a 25.438-acre parcel (Filed Map
#9575) on the east side of Route 9G, 1200 ft. north of Route 199, in the RD3
District.
Ms. Welch said that this application was the same as the one approved in 2004
by the Board, with one minor modification. She said that one of the lot lines
had been moved 50 feet so that a previously installed logging road could be
used by the intended purchaser of one of the lots. She said that although the
parcel’s inclusion in the Certified Agricultural District had not been
considered during the previous application process, she had submitted an
Agricultural Data Statement with this application. She had also submitted a
full EAF part 1 at the request of GreenPlan. Finally, she said that the
previous application had been granted Conditional Final Approval by the Board
in December 2004 but that she had been unable to obtain Board of Health
approval before the Subdivision approval expired.
The Chair said that the expiration of the previous approval meant that this
application must be considered anew. Since the parcel lay in the National
Historic Landmarks District, the project was a Type 1 Action under SEQR and
must undergo a coordinated review. Additionally, since the parcel lay within
the Certified Agricultural District, the application must be referred to the
Agricultural Advisory Committee.
The Chair asked if Ms. Welch had received approval from the NYS Department of
Transportation for the new intended driveway. Ms. Welch said that the DOT had
given generic driveway approval and that the new proposed driveway had the
same or possibly better sight distance than the driveway previously proposed.
The Chair asked Ms. Welch to check with DOT to confirm that the change would
be agreeable to that agency. Ms. Greig said that the Planning Board could
approve the subdivision with the driveway as shown currently on the plat and
that the applicants could seek approval for the driveway change later from the
DOT.
Ms. Greig said that if the applicant had plans for developing one of the lots,
those plans must be disclosed now to avoid the charge of segmentation at a
later time. Ms. Welch said that the applicant had no such plans, but the
intended buyer of one of the lots would come before the Board with his site
plan after the subdivision had been approved and filed and after the purchase
of the lot was finalized.
Ms. Greig said that the Town’s Local Waterfront Revitalization Plan should be
reviewed to ascertain whether the applicant should submit a Coastal
Consistency Assessment Form.
David Wright made a motion to accept the applications as adequate for review,
establish Intent to Serve as Lead Agency, and set a public hearing date for
June 6, 2005. Notices of Intent would be circulated to both the NYS DOT and
the Dutchess County Department of Health. Jennifer Fier seconded the motion,
and all members present voted in favor. The application was also referred to
the Agricultural Advisory Committee.
Bard College/ Soccer Field Expansion – Campus Road (Annandale) – Site Plan
John Gall and Kristen Hall from Bard College, Darin Dekoskie from the Chazen
Companies, Jim Catella from Clark Company and Don Rhuda from Musco Lighting
were present with an application for Site Plan Approval to authorize
renovations to an existing 252 ft. x 400 ft. soccer field and the creation of
a 261 ft. x 360 ft. soccer field in the Institutional (I) District.
John Gall said that the archaeology report had been completed and would be
sent to NYS Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation.
Darin Dekoskie said that he would like to float helium balloons to the height
of the proposed light poles before filling out and submitting the Visual EAF.
Mr. Gall said he would like to float the balloons on Saturday, May 7, 2005 but
if there is rain or wind that day, he would pick an alternate date. He would
publicize the event in the local papers and would arrange to have photographs
taken from areas such as Montgomery Place, Poet’s Walk, Tivoli, and Saugerties
to gauge the visible impact of the light poles.
Ms. Greig said that since the Town’s Zoning Code did not specify an exception
for stadium lighting from its site plan criteria for height, the College must
seek an area variance from the ZBA. Mr. Gall said he had consulted some
members of the ZBA who did not believe a variance was necessary. The Board and
the applicant agreed that the applicant should seek an interpretation from the
ZBA.
The Board and the applicant agreed that the soccer field expansion was
included in the Bard Master Plan Update approved by the Board in February
2005.
Ms. Greig said that the Town’s Local Waterfront Revitalization Plan should be
reviewed to ascertain whether the applicant should submit a Coastal
Consistency Assessment Form.
Mr. Gall asked if separating approval of the lights from approval of the field
renovation and construction would speed up the field approval. The Board
generally agreed that since the College must await the archaeology sign-off by
NYSOPRHP, separating the two facets of the project would not be an advantage.
Jim Catella of the Clark Company and Don Rhuda of Musco Lighting circulated
photographs of other stadium lighting installations. They said that lights
similar to those proposed for Bard would be installed in the upcoming week in
Carmel, New York and that some Planning Board members may want to visit that
site. Mr. Catella said that the lights would include metal halide bulbs of
1500 watts, which is normal for a ball field. These lights would provide 50
foot-candles of light on the field, dropping off to nearly zero foot-candles a
short distance from the perimeter of the field. He said that the taller poles
would provide a greater vertical angle of light, which would result in a safer
playing field and a greater ability to preclude glare from the surrounding
area. He said that the company had proposed 6 poles for the Bard field, with 2
banks of 4 lights per bank on each pole. Finally, Mr. Catella said that he
would give a Power Point presentation about the lighting at the public
hearing.
John Hardeman made a motion to establish the Board as Lead Agency in a
coordinated review for a Type 1 Action under SEQR and to set a public hearing
date for May 16, 2005. The Notice of Intent would be circulated to the Town
ZBA, the Village of Tivoli and the Village of Saugerties. Jennifer Fier
seconded the motion, and all members present voted in favor.
(At this point in the meeting, John Hardeman was called away)
Bard College / Center for Curatorial Studies – Blithewood and Garden Roads –
Modification of Site Plan Approval
Darin Dekoskie, P.E., appeared before the Board with an application to modify
the previously approved Site Plan for a 19,000 s.f. expansion of the existing
facility and for associated site improvements in the Institutional (I)
District.
Mr. Dekoskie said that the reduction in the size of the Curatorial Studies
expansion was due to budget cuts at the College. He said that the
indoor/outdoor reflecting pool, the east wing and the second floor mechanicals
room had been removed from the plan.
Ms. Greig said that a reduction in the expansion would mean that there would
less impervious surface area and fewer environmental impacts compared to the
original proposal. She said that Section 143-114C(1) of the Town Zoning Code
would allow the Planning Board to waive any further site plan review.
Charles Laing made a motion to waive further site plan review and to approve
the requested modifications. David Wright seconded the motion, and all members
present voted in favor. A copy of that resolution is attached to, and made
part of, these minutes.
7 Pines, LLC – Norton Road – Subdivision Plat
Tom Mannix, P.E. and L.S. and Tom LeGrand were present with an application for
subdivision plat (sketch plan) approval to create six (6) residential building
lots ranging from 5+ acres to 40+ acres from a total 126.7-acre parcel on both
sides of Norton Road in the RD3 District.
The applicants said that there had been no changes or updates to the plan
proposed conceptually before the Board at an earlier meeting.
Asked about obtaining necessary approvals from the Dutchess County Board of
Health, Mr. Mannix said that the Board of Health would give a waiver to any
lot over 5 acres in area. He said he must design an expanded sewage disposal
system for the existing house.
Ms. Greig said that because the parcel contained soils of Statewide
importance, the applicant must submit an Agricultural Data Statement and the
proposal must be referred to the Agricultural Advisory Committee for review
and comment. She also asked the applicant to revise certain answers on the EAF
part 1.
Ms. Greig went on to say that while the DEC wetlands on the parcel had been
flagged, both the 100 ft. buffer and the DEC verification block should be
shown on the plan. She added that a federal wetland also existed on the parcel
and should be verified by an independent third party.
Ms. Greig also said that the applicant should revise the sketch plan
application to reflect Mr. Wise’s ownership of property to the north, that the
Board should consider how the proposed housing sites would impact the view
from Norton Road and that if the applicant intended to blast, a blasting plan
would be required.
Finally, Ms. Greig said that the Important Farmlands Law of the Town Zoning
Code required the Planning Board to mandate clustering unless there were any
impediments such as wetlands or steep slopes that would preclude clustering.
Mr. LeGrand and Mr. Mannix said that this site had both steep slopes and
wetlands. Ms. Greig asked if a centralized septic system could solve those
problems and allow clustering. Mr. Mannix said that his perc tests showed very
slow percolation and that a centralized system would not work. Mr. LeGrand
said that Dutchess County was not in favor of centralized septic systems. Ms.
Greig said that the County was in favor of designs that were successful.
The Chair said that numerous letters and e-mails had been received regarding
any proposed residential development near the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome. The end
of the runway was found to be adjacent to one of the proposed residential
lots. Ms. Greig said that the Aerodrome was not listed on the National
Historic Register and as such could not be protected under the Zoning Code.
Jennifer Fier made a motion to establish the Board as Lead Agency under SEQR.
David Wright seconded the motion, and all members voted in favor. In addition,
the Board referred the project to the Agricultural Advisory Committee for
review.
OTHER BUSINESS
The Chair read a memo from Supervisor Blum Bump asking that two Planning Board
members be nominated for the Intermunicipal Task Force, a group which would
determine whether there was a need for an Intermunicipal Planning Board and,
if it determines there is such a need, who would be on such a Board and what
its jurisdiction would be. Jennifer Fier and Charles Laing said that they
would represent the Planning Board on this Task Force.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon being advised by the Chair that there was no further business to come
before the Board, Jennifer Fier made a motion to adjourn the meeting. David
Wright seconded the motion, and all members voted in favor. The meeting was
adjourned at 9:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted
Paula Schoonmaker
Assistant Clerk to the Planning Board
Attachment
Resolution granting Amended Site Plan Approval to Bard College, Center for
Curatorial
Studies
Town of Red Hook Planning Board
Resolution Amending the December 6, 2004 Site Plan Approval in the matter of
the Bard College Center for Curatorial Studies Building Expansion on
Blithewood and Garden Roads within the Bard College Campus
May 2, 2005
Motion made by Charles Laing
Seconded by David Wright
The Town of Red Hook Planning Board hereby acts as follows on the April 18,
2005 Application by Bard College for Amended Site Plan Approval to amend the
Site Plan, conditionally approved by the Planning Board on December 6, 2004
and signed and stamped by the Planning Board Chair on February 7, 2005, for an
expansion of an existing arts facility, the Center for Curatorial Studies, and
related site improvements located within its 550-acre campus and more
specifically situate between Blithewood and Garden Roads. The modifications
are as depicted on a 3-sheet set of ‘Curatorial Center Expansion’ Site Plan
drawings (C 1.1 / Existing Conditions and Demolition Plan, C 1.2 / Proposed
Site Conditions, and C 1.3 / Details) prepared by Lohan Caprile Goettsch
Architects, Inc., issued on July 23, 2004, and revised on March 4, 2005.
1. Determines the modification shall have fewer impacts on both campus
infrastructure and on lands adjacent to the Campus or within the community.
2. Waives further site plan review under Section 143-114C(1) of the Red Hook
Town Zoning Code.
3. Grants Amended Site Plan Approval for the intended composite expansion of
the Center for Curatorial Studies, as depicted by the referenced drawings and
other supporting data, and authorizes the Chair to stamp and sign the Site
Plan upon the Applicant’s satisfaction of each of the below conditions within
the next six (6) calendar months:
a. Submission of Site Plan drawings in the number and form specified within
the Town’s Zoning Law.
b. Payment of any outstanding fees or reimbursable costs due the Town of Red
Hook.
Roll Call Vote:
Member Jennifer Fier yes
Member John Hardeman absent
Member Charles Laing yes
Member Sam Phelan absent
Member Paul Telesca absent
Member David Wright yes
Chairman Christine Kane yes
Resolution declared: APPROVED
Resolution Certified, Filed with the Town Clerk and Mailed to the Applicant
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Paula Schoonmaker, Assistant Clerk to the Board Date